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How are your twins, Harper and Gideon?
Neil: They are fantastic. They are not crawling just yet. She is able to sit up now for extended periods of time without toppling over. This morning we were playing music and she was sitting upright and started shaking her head in rhythm to the music for the first time. Here. See. (The proud dad, he happily holds his cell phone up to the computer screen and shows me the video of his daughter’s first performance.)Let’s get back to James Franco—not to dwell—but he does insert himself into the cultural conversation so we might as well insert him into ours. You have as varied a career as he does, but the one difference is that you are an out gay man. He instead flirts with the gay question about himself as a construct for his art. He played Harvey Milk’s lover. He played Allen Ginsberg. He is about to release a CD of duets with a female impersonator. He carved the late actor Brad Renfro’s name into his arm with a knife and photographed it as part of an installation at the Venice Biennale that was a tribute to James Dean, who was gay according to his close friend Elizabeth Taylor. He is about to direct a movie about another gay actor Sal Mineo, a buddy of Dean’s. He posed for the cover of a transgender magazine in drag. Some say he is courageous to make such choices and yet the incessant blanket blatantness of it all has become, in essence, coy as he seems to codify gay sexuality without coming clean as to why it so inspires him. He is becoming both the organ grinder and the monkey. Yet maybe that’s his whole point.
Neil: I don’t spend a whole lot of my time concerning myself with who people sleep with, but I really applaud James’ fearlessness in everything that he does. I think that anyone at his level who continues to educate himself constantly at school and that will then go on a soap opera for a benefit that is unquantifiable and that will do these art projects that you have mentioned … I mean, to expose yourself that much in so many different avenues and still seem mysterious and still seem desirable and still seem to have all this potential energy still there is fascinating. I’m a big fan.
But you’ve just brought up something I think is also fascinating. When I bring up someone’s sexuality I am not bringing up the subject of who they sleep with. Even the Anthony Weiner media scandal inspires this dialectic if nothing else, and that is the difference between one’s sexuality and one’s sex life. You have made public that you are a gay man—it is a part of your identity—but that does not give us the right to know anything about your sex life. Those are two completely different things and yet so many people conflate the two because they only see gay men as sexual creatures and therefore not, well, fully human in the way that heterosexuals are since their sexuality is woven into their personae: who they are dating or their choice of a spouse, their children, their family life. By living your life openly with your partner David and your children you have made people confront the notion that gayness is something that is woven naturally into our lives as well. It is not something to be furtive about. It’s not just about fucking.
Neil: I hear what you’re saying entirely. But Franco has an inclusive … ah … chemistry, so the result is that everyone is drawn to him, which he probably uses to his advantage when he needs to. As far as my own coming out as a gay man, I just looked on it as an inevitability. I am a relatively transparent person so once I fell in love with David and we were living together I wasn’t about to create a false construct and force us to live within it, which would make me claim to be someone I am not. I could not live a lie and would not ask him to live one. And I never looked on it as the big end-of-my-career moment. I did think there might be more of a negative backlash than there was so I was glad to see there was as much support — and quite frankly, as much indifference — as there was. The only negative reaction really was, “Who really gives a shit?”
Once your womanizing days are over on CBS would you like to do a variety show? I told Jackman—only half in jest—that he was a combination of Gary Cooper, Gene Kelly, and Rosalind Russell. He especially loved the Roz Russell reference. You’re sort of a combination of Carol Burnett, Harvey Korman, and Lyle Waggoner. You’d be perfect hosting a variety show. All these award shows you’ve done could be looked on as practice runs. Let’s pitch it.
Neil: I’d LOVE that. I’ve spent so many decades learning lines and having to regurgitate them that I think there would be something nice to having a secondary career that is just being myself and showing people what I find interesting. So if that were to come along in a way that was financially quantifiable I’d jump at. In my kind of career you’re always trying to catch the next fish so I feel as if I’m always fishing. But now I’m about to be 38 years old and I have two kids and a fantastic better half in David, so I’m ready to filet the fish and settle down for a while and have some poi.
How are your twins, Harper and Gideon?
Neil: They are fantastic. They are not crawling just yet. She is able to sit up now for extended periods of time without toppling over. This morning we were playing music and she was sitting upright and started shaking her head in rhythm to the music for the first time. Here. See. (The proud dad, he happily holds his cell phone up to the computer screen and shows me the video of his daughter’s first performance.)
When it becomes legal to marry in California again will you and David get married?
Yeah. Definitely.
In Dr. Horrible’s Sing-Along Blog, when the character of Hammer is finally injured and experiences pain, the line he delivers is that he needs “someone maternal.” There are social conservatives who would, no doubt, want me to ask you what would you say to Harper and Gideon if, when they get a little older, they say the same thing to you and David?
Neil: Hmmmm …. I’d ask them in what way. David and I both provide them with interesting elements like that — even maternal ones. But we are also surrounding them with great women. Their nanny is from Cork, Ireland, and she is amazing and hilarious. I don’t know. I’ve never even contemplated that. I don’t think that David and I are so hyper-male that there will be this big gap of anything missing.
David was once so sweet to my niece when she visited me in New York. We went to see the Bernadette Peters production of Gypsy and she fell in love with David in the role of Tulsa. Later that week we went to a Christmas party at Andy Tobias’ and David walked in and she almost fainted she thought he was so cute.
Neil: Tell her I had the same reaction the first time I ever saw him walk into a party too.
Well, you’re the one who ended up having kids with him. Congratulations.
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